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48272 From: this_chix_tj <this_chix_tj@y...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 2:08pm
Subject: Eagle Rims for sale
4 Eagle rims, 15x12, 5 on 41/2...$200 obo. Call or e-mail me...cell
is 623-326-0736 Kris
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48273 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 2:36pm
Subject: bob lynn or someone with his phone # please call me
480.215.6992
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48274 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 3:38pm
Subject: RE: new member - posted pics
Good to see another west sider
-----Original Message-----
From: rjinaz85308 [mailto:gottcha9@c...]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new member - posted pics
I have only been in the group for a few weeks. I just got my '02 (had a
2000 that was totaled), and finished putting my gear on it. I posted
some pictures if anyone is interested (Ricks CB & GPS). Once things
settle down and my body quits hurtin' from the wreck, I would like to do
some of the easier runs. I have enjoyed the board and picked up a lot
of good info. Hope to meet some of you in the future.
Rick (old-timer)
Glendale
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48275 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 3:41pm
Subject: RE: Re: Jeeping naked?
Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
Looks like it is a YJ thing...
LOL
Lester
--- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> This is new..
> Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> R.J.
>
> If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us at the
> JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email jeepnaked-
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48276 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 4:00pm
Subject: Re: Re: Jeeping naked?
Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked in a YJ
than clothed in a TJ!
YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a buttload of
money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you imagine that?!
Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight.
Just thought I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern.
Now, was it mine or yours?
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> Looks like it is a YJ thing...
>
> LOL
>
> Lester
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > This is new..
> > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > R.J.
> >
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48277 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 4:12pm
Subject: RE: bob lynn or someone with his phone # please call me
never mind
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Subject: [az_vjc] bob lynn or someone with his phone # please call me
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48278 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 4:16pm
Subject: RE: Re: Jeeping naked?
Well sense you are a TJ owner too. You must know this. Want to take the
TJ to lower raw deal tonight. What about the rest of you
abusivemotorsports members. Or is the tj just a grocery getter aka joe
west mobile.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked in a
YJ than clothed in a TJ!
YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a
buttload of money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you
imagine that?! Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight. Just thought
I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern. Now, was it mine or
yours?
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> Looks like it is a YJ thing...
>
> LOL
>
> Lester
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > This is new..
> > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > R.J.
> >
> > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us at the
> > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email jeepnaked-
> > subscribe@y...
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48279 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@c...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:10pm
Subject: Re: Re: Jeeping naked?
Waht about those of us who are proud of our long schlongedness???
Scott "The third" Legge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked in a YJ
> than clothed in a TJ!
>
> YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a buttload
of
> money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you imagine that?!
> Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight.
> Just thought I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern.
> Now, was it mine or yours?
>
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Lester
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > This is new..
> > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > R.J.
> > >
> > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us at the
> > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
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48280 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:22pm
Subject: Re: Re: Jeeping naked?
You GO!!
Damn that was funny!
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> Waht about those of us who are proud of our long schlongedness???
>
> Scott "The third" Legge
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> > Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked in a
YJ
> > than clothed in a TJ!
> >
> > YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a
buttload
> of
> > money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you imagine that?!
> > Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight.
> > Just thought I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern.
> > Now, was it mine or yours?
> >
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> > >
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > Lester
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > > This is new..
> > > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > > R.J.
> > > >
> > > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us at the
> > > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
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48281 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:34pm
Subject: Re: Re: Jeeping naked?
I don't own a TJ, my wife does.
I don't even get windshield time in it because she knows I'll wheel the hell
out of it. She will let me maintain it though.(Ohh how nice of her).
And yes, when it comes to HER Jeep, she's the boss. I think all Jeepers
will agree that's the way it should be.
Is Lower Raw Deal the best you got?
I suppose I could meet you there in my work truck. <BIG ****ty GRIN!!!!>
AbusiveMotorsports members?
One of them just finished running Predator and Upper Terminator with me
today, and upper Ajax on Friday. I hardly think Raw Deal is on the top of
their "Challenging trails" list. I can't speak for them though, there are a
few guys with Mustangs in that crowd. They don't limit themselves to Off
Road Abuse is the best way I could put it.
Joe West has at least put his TJ in harms way, as has Scott Kruize, Doug B.,
and Tim Naylor.
I don't consider any of them super Hard Core, I can respect them though
because I've seen
them on the trail.
Maybe you should 4 wheel with them to see how your "TJ" stacks up.
BTW, For future reference, my group is the Arizona Extreme 4 Wheelers.
We are a small group of like minded 4 wheelers, with pretty well prepared
rigs.
There are 4 CJ's, 1 EB, and a buttload of YJ's.
We even have a new "TJ" guy. I'm sure you know Sharky. He's the Only TJ
owner with balls enough to enter the Rockcrawling event put on by the ARC.
I'm not sure they will take your challenge seriously, much less answer it.
I can only speak for myself, Thanks, but no thanks.
Try the Arizona Axlebreakers, I hear they have a few TJs....
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> Well sense you are a TJ owner too. You must know this. Want to take the
> TJ to lower raw deal tonight. What about the rest of you
> abusivemotorsports members. Or is the tj just a grocery getter aka joe
> west mobile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:01 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked in a
> YJ than clothed in a TJ!
>
> YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a
> buttload of money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you
> imagine that?! Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight. Just thought
> I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern. Now, was it mine or
> yours?
>
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Lester
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > This is new..
> > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > R.J.
> > >
> > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us at the
> > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email jeepnaked-
> > > subscribe@y...
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48282 From: dionbozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:38pm
Subject: Re: Jeeping naked?
Bill: Perhaps you should just invite David on one of our runs, eh?
Sounds like he's interested in getting it awwwnnnn. We'll warm up with
Raw Deal and then maybe zip him through Armaggedon? Whatcha think?
Dion
AZX4W
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> I don't own a TJ, my wife does.
> I don't even get windshield time in it because she knows I'll wheel
the hell
> out of it. She will let me maintain it though.(Ohh how nice of her).
> And yes, when it comes to HER Jeep, she's the boss. I think all
Jeepers
> will agree that's the way it should be.
>
> Is Lower Raw Deal the best you got?
> I suppose I could meet you there in my work truck. <BIG ****ty
GRIN!!!!>
>
> AbusiveMotorsports members?
> One of them just finished running Predator and Upper Terminator with
me
> today, and upper Ajax on Friday. I hardly think Raw Deal is on the
top of
> their "Challenging trails" list. I can't speak for them though,
there are a
> few guys with Mustangs in that crowd. They don't limit themselves to
Off
> Road Abuse is the best way I could put it.
>
> Joe West has at least put his TJ in harms way, as has Scott Kruize,
Doug B.,
> and Tim Naylor.
> I don't consider any of them super Hard Core, I can respect them
though
> because I've seen
> them on the trail.
> Maybe you should 4 wheel with them to see how your "TJ" stacks up.
> BTW, For future reference, my group is the Arizona Extreme 4
Wheelers.
> We are a small group of like minded 4 wheelers, with pretty well
prepared
> rigs.
> There are 4 CJ's, 1 EB, and a buttload of YJ's.
> We even have a new "TJ" guy. I'm sure you know Sharky. He's the Only
TJ
> owner with balls enough to enter the Rockcrawling event put on by
the ARC.
> I'm not sure they will take your challenge seriously, much less
answer it.
> I can only speak for myself, Thanks, but no thanks.
> Try the Arizona Axlebreakers, I hear they have a few TJs....
>
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> > Well sense you are a TJ owner too. You must know this. Want to
take the
> > TJ to lower raw deal tonight. What about the rest of you
> > abusivemotorsports members. Or is the tj just a grocery getter aka
joe
> > west mobile.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:01 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked
in a
> > YJ than clothed in a TJ!
> >
> > YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a
> > buttload of money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you
> > imagine that?! Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight. Just
thought
> > I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern. Now, was it mine
or
> > yours?
> >
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> > >
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > Lester
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > > This is new..
> > > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > > R.J.
> > > >
> > > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us
at the
> > > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email jeepnaked-
> > > > subscribe@y...
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48283 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:48pm
Subject: RE: Re: Jeeping naked?
Let's take out those lockers and see how well you do. Oh wait, did I
just rip your crutches out from under you.
-----Original Message-----
From: dionbozman [mailto:amstaff@e...]
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:38 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
Bill: Perhaps you should just invite David on one of our runs, eh?
Sounds like he's interested in getting it awwwnnnn. We'll warm up with
Raw Deal and then maybe zip him through Armaggedon? Whatcha think? Dion
AZX4W
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> I don't own a TJ, my wife does.
> I don't even get windshield time in it because she knows I'll wheel
the hell
> out of it. She will let me maintain it though.(Ohh how nice of her).
> And yes, when it comes to HER Jeep, she's the boss. I think all
Jeepers
> will agree that's the way it should be.
>
> Is Lower Raw Deal the best you got?
> I suppose I could meet you there in my work truck. <BIG ****ty
GRIN!!!!>
>
> AbusiveMotorsports members?
> One of them just finished running Predator and Upper Terminator with
me
> today, and upper Ajax on Friday. I hardly think Raw Deal is on the
top of
> their "Challenging trails" list. I can't speak for them though,
there are a
> few guys with Mustangs in that crowd. They don't limit themselves to
Off
> Road Abuse is the best way I could put it.
>
> Joe West has at least put his TJ in harms way, as has Scott Kruize,
Doug B.,
> and Tim Naylor.
> I don't consider any of them super Hard Core, I can respect them
though
> because I've seen
> them on the trail.
> Maybe you should 4 wheel with them to see how your "TJ" stacks up.
> BTW, For future reference, my group is the Arizona Extreme 4
Wheelers.
> We are a small group of like minded 4 wheelers, with pretty well
prepared
> rigs.
> There are 4 CJ's, 1 EB, and a buttload of YJ's.
> We even have a new "TJ" guy. I'm sure you know Sharky. He's the Only
TJ
> owner with balls enough to enter the Rockcrawling event put on by
the ARC.
> I'm not sure they will take your challenge seriously, much less
answer it.
> I can only speak for myself, Thanks, but no thanks.
> Try the Arizona Axlebreakers, I hear they have a few TJs....
>
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> > Well sense you are a TJ owner too. You must know this. Want to
take the
> > TJ to lower raw deal tonight. What about the rest of you
> > abusivemotorsports members. Or is the tj just a grocery getter aka
joe
> > west mobile.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:01 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked
in a
> > YJ than clothed in a TJ!
> >
> > YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a
> > buttload of money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you
> > imagine that?! Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight. Just
thought
> > I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern. Now, was it mine
or
> > yours?
> >
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> > >
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > Lester
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > > This is new..
> > > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > > R.J.
> > > >
> > > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us
at the
> > > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email jeepnaked-
> > > > subscribe@y...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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48284 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@c...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:51pm
Subject: Re: Re: Jeeping naked?
LOL you have to be kidding! How about the lift and tires too??? Dont let the
rig hold you back man fear should take care of that part... Hell if you are
talking about the amount of money involved you are right a better equipped
rig (more $$$) will beat the less equipped (less $$$) but money spent in the
right areas makes a lot of difference. To prove this look at ANY motorsports
the more funded team usually (being a key term) wins easier than the lesser.
Scott Legge
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
To: "'dionbozman'" <amstaff@e...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> Let's take out those lockers and see how well you do. Oh wait, did I
> just rip your crutches out from under you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dionbozman [mailto:amstaff@e...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:38 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
48285 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 6:42pm
Subject: Jeep story
Hi all,
So today, I finally got some time and was laying under my 99 TJ pulling the carrier out of the Dana 44 in the rear so that I could install my Detroit locker that I got for Christmas. The guy that is doing the wiring for the lighting around the pool comes into the back yard, looks at my TJ with 33" tires, 4" lift kit, 1"body lift and motor mount lift, K&N air filter, Gibson cat back exhaust and this and that (you know the" it never is finished" story). Any way, he walks right by my pride and joy to the '51cj3a sitting behind it (with the army green paint brushed on it), rubs some bird poop off of the hood and says "cool jeep, man".
Well, at least the TJ has round headlights.
John
48286 From: dionbozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 6:59pm
Subject: Re: Jeeping naked?
Blah, blah, blah. You're arguing a point of diminishing returns. How
about taking the lift and tires, too? Locking differentials are a part
of this sport, much life cranks on a bicycle. What? Do you think you
can fully participate with open diffs? That it's some sort of Barney
Badass badge of honor? Or do you spend most of your trail time
stacking rocks so your two spinning tires have something to grab?
Or do you spend most of your time manning the keyboard instead of
manning the wheel? Get real, dude.
I won't answer another of your posts in this stupid thread and it's
not possible to bait me. You can talk all you want, and post all the
YJ-bashing crap you want. It all boils down to getting your junk on
the trail. Anytime you're ready to stop talking and start wheeling,
just give a shout.
Dion
AZX4W
PS: You could pop for a shiny TJ and can't spare $250 for a Lockright?
Those damn monthly payments gotcha down, huh? LOL.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...> wrote:
> Let's take out those lockers and see how well you do. Oh wait, did
I
> just rip your crutches out from under you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dionbozman [mailto:amstaff@e...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:38 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> Bill: Perhaps you should just invite David on one of our runs, eh?
> Sounds like he's interested in getting it awwwnnnn. We'll warm up
with
> Raw Deal and then maybe zip him through Armaggedon? Whatcha think?
Dion
> AZX4W
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> > I don't own a TJ, my wife does.
> > I don't even get windshield time in it because she knows I'll
wheel
> the hell
> > out of it. She will let me maintain it though.(Ohh how nice of
her).
> > And yes, when it comes to HER Jeep, she's the boss. I think all
> Jeepers
> > will agree that's the way it should be.
> >
> > Is Lower Raw Deal the best you got?
> > I suppose I could meet you there in my work truck. <BIG ****ty
> GRIN!!!!>
> >
> > AbusiveMotorsports members?
> > One of them just finished running Predator and Upper Terminator
with
> me
> > today, and upper Ajax on Friday. I hardly think Raw Deal is on the
> top of
> > their "Challenging trails" list. I can't speak for them though,
> there are a
> > few guys with Mustangs in that crowd. They don't limit themselves
to
> Off
> > Road Abuse is the best way I could put it.
> >
> > Joe West has at least put his TJ in harms way, as has Scott
Kruize,
> Doug B.,
> > and Tim Naylor.
> > I don't consider any of them super Hard Core, I can respect them
> though
> > because I've seen
> > them on the trail.
> > Maybe you should 4 wheel with them to see how your "TJ" stacks up.
> > BTW, For future reference, my group is the Arizona Extreme 4
> Wheelers.
> > We are a small group of like minded 4 wheelers, with pretty well
> prepared
> > rigs.
> > There are 4 CJ's, 1 EB, and a buttload of YJ's.
> > We even have a new "TJ" guy. I'm sure you know Sharky. He's the
Only
> TJ
> > owner with balls enough to enter the Rockcrawling event put on by
> the ARC.
> > I'm not sure they will take your challenge seriously, much less
> answer it.
> > I can only speak for myself, Thanks, but no thanks.
> > Try the Arizona Axlebreakers, I hear they have a few TJs....
> >
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > > Well sense you are a TJ owner too. You must know this. Want to
> take the
> > > TJ to lower raw deal tonight. What about the rest of you
> > > abusivemotorsports members. Or is the tj just a grocery getter
aka
> joe
> > > west mobile.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:01 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught
Naked
> in a
> > > YJ than clothed in a TJ!
> > >
> > > YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a
> > > buttload of money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can
you
> > > imagine that?! Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight. Just
> thought
> > > I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern. Now, was it mine
> or
> > > yours?
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Mish
> > > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > > To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> > > >
> > > > LOL
> > > >
> > > > Lester
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > > > This is new..
> > > > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > > > R.J.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us
> at the
> > > > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email jeepnaked-
> > > > > subscribe@y...
> > > >
> > > >
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48287 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 1:59pm
Subject: Re: Jeep story
LOL That figures..........
John K
48288 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:22pm
Subject: Re: Jeep story
Hi all
Just so you know I am John Halversons daughter and that was MY 51 Jeep that the lighting guy thought was cool. Just so you know dad, my Jeep rules and well yours doesn't!!
Amanda
----- Original Message -----
From: HUNTEROFFROAD@aol.com
To: byrnec@qwest.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: WillysTech@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep story
LOL That figures..........
John K
48289 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:39pm
Subject: For Sale: Offroad Lights
Hi Gang,
I have a pair of Factory TJ Fog Lights with covers and a pair of 100W
Procomp offroad lights. I believe that the factory fog lights are 35W.
$35 for the factory lights.
$30 for the procomps.
$55 for all four lights.
All are in perfect working condition.
Joe West
(602) 524-7632
48290 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:43pm
Subject: [TR] Terminator (Lower) - Sunday, March 31, 2002 - Reminder
Hello All,
Paul Kroger is leading a Terminator (Lower) trail run on Sunday, March 31, 2002.
When: Sunday 9:00 am
Where: The dirt parking lot, Table Mesa Rd
Rating: 4.5-
Length: depends
CB Channel: 4
We'll run as much of Terminator as time allows.
Lower Terminator was the first of the Terminator Trails.
You will find the infamous "White Line" and "Terminator" obstacles on this trail. While both spots certainly have the potential to "Terminate" your vehicle, they will definitely grab your attention.
You will go over, around, straddle and tip on the rocks on this trail; you will find yourself off-camber and wonder why you're doing this, but will love it. It is an awesome trail with numerous play areas and very few bypasses.
Clearance and Lockers are a must, 33" tires a minimum and experienced drivers a must.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
48291 From: hiett710 <hiett710@y...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:45pm
Subject: Re: Jeeping naked?? No, Just Jeepin'
Fellow Tj Bashers.
I wonder how this will fair.
here is my deal
$384 a month payment.
3" lift (springs and 2 working shocks $375)
2 more shocks and rear shock relocators $100
5 BFG 32/11.50/15 MTR's brand new installed with Roah h***ard
after discount $550 (paid for by tax return)
Kilby skid $200
adj. front trac bar $100
X-fer case lowering kit $20
Rear trac bar re-locator $20
Powder coating (4 springs and kilby) $100
Spare tire re-locator $20
Yellow Shock boots $12
VJC stickers $6
5lb industrial ABC fire ext. $20 (with bracket)
High lift and accessories $100
All in 6 months time while keeping all my bills current.
alot of my lift is used and if you look at my gallery I'm not afraid
to scratch my TJ (well I am afraid to scratch my tinted soft top
windows in the rear) but after all that I still wash it every weekend
and turn a ton-o-heads when I drive by. I'm proud of my lockerless TJ!
So lets not diss the TJ YJ XY LMNOPJ. lets Wheel baby.
Mike H. 02 TJ (listed above)
P.S.
Did I mention it was Yellow?
--- In az_vjc@y..., "dionbozman" <amstaff@e...> wrote:
> Blah, blah, blah. You're arguing a point of diminishing returns.
How
> about taking the lift and tires, too? Locking differentials are a
part
> of this sport, much life cranks on a bicycle. What? Do you think
you
> can fully participate with open diffs? That it's some sort of
Barney
> Badass badge of honor? Or do you spend most of your trail time
> stacking rocks so your two spinning tires have something to grab?
>
> Or do you spend most of your time manning the keyboard instead of
> manning the wheel? Get real, dude.
>
> I won't answer another of your posts in this stupid thread and it's
> not possible to bait me. You can talk all you want, and post all
the
> YJ-bashing crap you want. It all boils down to getting your junk on
> the trail. Anytime you're ready to stop talking and start wheeling,
> just give a shout.
> Dion
> AZX4W
>
> PS: You could pop for a shiny TJ and can't spare $250 for a
Lockright?
> Those damn monthly payments gotcha down, huh? LOL.
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...> wrote:
> > Let's take out those lockers and see how well you do. Oh wait,
did
> I
> > just rip your crutches out from under you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dionbozman [mailto:amstaff@e...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:38 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > Bill: Perhaps you should just invite David on one of our runs, eh?
> > Sounds like he's interested in getting it awwwnnnn. We'll warm up
> with
> > Raw Deal and then maybe zip him through Armaggedon? Whatcha
think?
> Dion
> > AZX4W
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> > > I don't own a TJ, my wife does.
> > > I don't even get windshield time in it because she knows I'll
> wheel
> > the hell
> > > out of it. She will let me maintain it though.(Ohh how nice of
> her).
> > > And yes, when it comes to HER Jeep, she's the boss. I think all
> > Jeepers
> > > will agree that's the way it should be.
> > >
> > > Is Lower Raw Deal the best you got?
> > > I suppose I could meet you there in my work truck. <BIG ****ty
> > GRIN!!!!>
> > >
> > > AbusiveMotorsports members?
> > > One of them just finished running Predator and Upper Terminator
> with
> > me
> > > today, and upper Ajax on Friday. I hardly think Raw Deal is on
the
> > top of
> > > their "Challenging trails" list. I can't speak for them though,
> > there are a
> > > few guys with Mustangs in that crowd. They don't limit
themselves
> to
> > Off
> > > Road Abuse is the best way I could put it.
> > >
> > > Joe West has at least put his TJ in harms way, as has Scott
> Kruize,
> > Doug B.,
> > > and Tim Naylor.
> > > I don't consider any of them super Hard Core, I can respect them
> > though
> > > because I've seen
> > > them on the trail.
> > > Maybe you should 4 wheel with them to see how your "TJ" stacks
up.
> > > BTW, For future reference, my group is the Arizona Extreme 4
> > Wheelers.
> > > We are a small group of like minded 4 wheelers, with pretty well
> > prepared
> > > rigs.
> > > There are 4 CJ's, 1 EB, and a buttload of YJ's.
> > > We even have a new "TJ" guy. I'm sure you know Sharky. He's the
> Only
> > TJ
> > > owner with balls enough to enter the Rockcrawling event put on
by
> > the ARC.
> > > I'm not sure they will take your challenge seriously, much less
> > answer it.
> > > I can only speak for myself, Thanks, but no thanks.
> > > Try the Arizona Axlebreakers, I hear they have a few TJs....
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Mish
> > > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > > To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:16 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well sense you are a TJ owner too. You must know this. Want
to
> > take the
> > > > TJ to lower raw deal tonight. What about the rest of you
> > > > abusivemotorsports members. Or is the tj just a grocery
getter
> aka
> > joe
> > > > west mobile.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:01 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught
> Naked
> > in a
> > > > YJ than clothed in a TJ!
> > > >
> > > > YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't
spend a
> > > > buttload of money on something they are afraid to scratch!
Can
> you
> > > > imagine that?! Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight.
Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern. Now, was it
mine
> > or
> > > > yours?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Mish
> > > > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > > > To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL
> > > > >
> > > > > Lester
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > > > > This is new..
> > > > > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > > > > R.J.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join
us
> > at the
> > > > > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email
jeepnaked-
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48292 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:54pm
Subject: Re: Re: Jeeping naked?
Now, David,
You have turned the tables to driving skill, which I'm sure if we continue
with this, you are going to receive an education.
Most of Upper Ajax, Predator, and Upper Terminator can be run open with a
well prepared vehicle. There are a few obstacles on all of those that do
require lockers, but I assure you I came up to my current status with a
strong foundation in driving skill.
I usually engage the ARB's when my tires slip and I cease forward motion. I
also will engage them before attempting an obstacle that petrifies me, which
I assure you would quite simply make you wet your pants.
Usually, I engage them when I get a little creative with the trail, or
really get in a bind.
The truth is, I wheel mostly for fun and the challenge.
I've met you before, and I've done work for you.
I like you, but that doesn't mean I agree with you though. This entire
diatribe seems to be a little more ego centered than I care for, despite
what you may think, big Jeep (Or built Jeep) does not equal big ego.
Upon Dion's recommendation, I'll extend an invitation to you to run with a
few of us.
If you like, we could do Raw Deal, I'll run it open front and rear if
that's your current setup, let you pick the lines as long as it's
interesting, However, I reserve the right to up the ante, and show you
parts of the trail you probably don't even know exist.
Ross Skinner also has a CJ with ARB's, I bet he's willing to let his 15 year
old boy drive with us. It's only fair that I warn you on the shame of being
spanked by a 15 year old boy.
By the way, Dion doesn't even have a rear locker, and I'm sure you would
launch a spring before he would lose traction.
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
To: "'dionbozman'" <amstaff@e...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> Let's take out those lockers and see how well you do. Oh wait, did I
> just rip your crutches out from under you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dionbozman [mailto:amstaff@e...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:38 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> Bill: Perhaps you should just invite David on one of our runs, eh?
> Sounds like he's interested in getting it awwwnnnn. We'll warm up with
> Raw Deal and then maybe zip him through Armaggedon? Whatcha think? Dion
> AZX4W
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> > I don't own a TJ, my wife does.
> > I don't even get windshield time in it because she knows I'll wheel
> the hell
> > out of it. She will let me maintain it though.(Ohh how nice of her).
> > And yes, when it comes to HER Jeep, she's the boss. I think all
> Jeepers
> > will agree that's the way it should be.
> >
> > Is Lower Raw Deal the best you got?
> > I suppose I could meet you there in my work truck. <BIG ****ty
> GRIN!!!!>
> >
> > AbusiveMotorsports members?
> > One of them just finished running Predator and Upper Terminator with
> me
> > today, and upper Ajax on Friday. I hardly think Raw Deal is on the
> top of
> > their "Challenging trails" list. I can't speak for them though,
> there are a
> > few guys with Mustangs in that crowd. They don't limit themselves to
> Off
> > Road Abuse is the best way I could put it.
> >
> > Joe West has at least put his TJ in harms way, as has Scott Kruize,
> Doug B.,
> > and Tim Naylor.
> > I don't consider any of them super Hard Core, I can respect them
> though
> > because I've seen
> > them on the trail.
> > Maybe you should 4 wheel with them to see how your "TJ" stacks up.
> > BTW, For future reference, my group is the Arizona Extreme 4
> Wheelers.
> > We are a small group of like minded 4 wheelers, with pretty well
> prepared
> > rigs.
> > There are 4 CJ's, 1 EB, and a buttload of YJ's.
> > We even have a new "TJ" guy. I'm sure you know Sharky. He's the Only
> TJ
> > owner with balls enough to enter the Rockcrawling event put on by
> the ARC.
> > I'm not sure they will take your challenge seriously, much less
> answer it.
> > I can only speak for myself, Thanks, but no thanks.
> > Try the Arizona Axlebreakers, I hear they have a few TJs....
> >
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
> >
> > > Well sense you are a TJ owner too. You must know this. Want to
> take the
> > > TJ to lower raw deal tonight. What about the rest of you
> > > abusivemotorsports members. Or is the tj just a grocery getter aka
> joe
> > > west mobile.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 5:01 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > Oooh, Be careful David, I'd say they would rather be caught Naked
> in a
> > > YJ than clothed in a TJ!
> > >
> > > YJ owners might be a little off, but at least they don't spend a
> > > buttload of money on something they are afraid to scratch! Can you
> > > imagine that?! Nothing personal, I have dog in this fight. Just
> thought
> > > I'd point out a little twisted thought pattern. Now, was it mine
> or
> > > yours?
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Mish
> > > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> > > To: "'jeepfun2'" <jeeps2fun@a...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:41 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah, those yj owners are a little messed up in the head
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jeepfun2 [mailto:jeeps2fun@a...]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks like it is a YJ thing...
> > > >
> > > > LOL
> > > >
> > > > Lester
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> > > > > This is new..
> > > > > Thought to forward this invite from another list..
> > > > > R.J.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you like Jeeping and you like being Naked, please join us
> at the
> > > > > JeepNaked yahoo group. Either go to
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeepnaked or email jeepnaked-
> > > > > subscribe@y...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > >
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48293 From: Jason LaLiberty <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:45pm
Subject: Moab Pictures
So I made it back from Moab. Here are some pictures. What a blast!!
Jason
----- Original Message -----
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To: jaylalib1@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:35 PM
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48294 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 8:07pm
Subject: Re: Re: Jeeping naked?
Hi Scott,
If I were to add up what I have in my rig in it's current configuration, I
could show you a $12,000 bill.
If I were to add up what experience has taught me by building my rig without
the benefit of prior knowledge, I'm afraid I'd have to show you a $25,000
dollar bill, accumulated in time over the past 9 years. (Bought the Jeep in
April 1993)
However, if I were to show you someone I helped build a rig on a budget
based on my past experience capable of running every trail this group runs,
I'd show you a $5,000 bill.
So, What is your point?
Should I feel bad because I sacrifice some cash to my hobby?
Should I feel bad I spent the money for knowledge to benefit me and others?
Hmm, don't they call this progress?
BTW, My wife's TJ without modification will cost her $26,678. She seems to
be as AFRAID to dent it as the rest of the TJ crowd.
Isn't this fun!
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> LOL you have to be kidding! How about the lift and tires too??? Dont let
the
> rig hold you back man fear should take care of that part... Hell if you
are
> talking about the amount of money involved you are right a better equipped
> rig (more $$$) will beat the less equipped (less $$$) but money spent in
the
> right areas makes a lot of difference. To prove this look at ANY
motorsports
> the more funded team usually (being a key term) wins easier than the
lesser.
>
>
> Scott Legge
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Withers" <dr_ww@h...>
> To: "'dionbozman'" <amstaff@e...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
>
>
> > Let's take out those lockers and see how well you do. Oh wait, did I
> > just rip your crutches out from under you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dionbozman [mailto:amstaff@e...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:38 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Jeeping naked?
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
48295 From: ccgaiser <ccgaiser@h...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 8:05pm
Subject: Re: Custom license plate survey
It's on the Bronco till the Jeep is done.
ILOVEIT
Chris
66 CJ-5
--- In az_vjc@y..., Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...> wrote:
> Mine should be here next week:
>
> NOCOILS :-)
>
> Who else has one besides:
>
> Joe West - GOTROCK
> Mike Wixom - H8PVMNT
>
> Tom LaFrance
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> "Wax is for Corvettes - Dirt is for Jeeps"
48296 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 8:10pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Moab - Wednesday, March 27, 2002
Hello All,
Jason LaLiberty lead a trail run Wednesday, March 27, 2002 across Moab
Well, we made it back! We started off a little late thanks to me! I had to work late on Wednesday, so we didn't hit the road until 9:30. Due to some CV driveshaft problems, we ended up arriving at 5:30am in Moab. I crawled under my jeep and pulled my rear driveshaft. We were about 100 miles from Moab when I had to take it out. 3am! $75 and about 2 hours I was ready to wheel that morning by 11:30am. I will be calling Dick's on Monday. Apparently they had to replace the top half of the joint (sorry I don't know the exact tech. name of the black end of the shaft) ve of the drive shaft. Well we met up with marley28 from JU and headed for Hell's Revenge. Awsome trail. We took about 6 hours to run it. Stopping to debate about who was going up Lion's Back and who wasn't. Mike and I decided we would do it on Friday. After that Mike, Zack(Mike's Friend) and I headed back to camp for dinner. Holy Shi* was it cold that night. I ended up hopping in the jeep at about 4am and starting the heat blowin'! Next day we planned on heading to Golden Crack. Unfortunately some of the guys running with us had some minor trail damage the day before, so we waited for repairs. The day claimed two more injuries. Mike broke a brake-line. With a hammer and pliers. Made a quick repair. Marley28 was the first to try and cross the crack. He ended up bending his drag link. I def. am going to do two things next time. 1. Hotel room with heat! 2. Stay for at least 4 days of wheeling!
Great place!
click on the link for pics.
Jason
Click Here to View Pictures (if available)
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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