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28312 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:18pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Like I said, I can't read. =)
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Eric Herring" <herring@q...> wrote:
> The description said the run would include upper after lower & I
would like
> to try it but just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my
head.
>
> Eric Herring 92XJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>
>
> I'm curious, why the talk about Upper if the run is for Lower...or
> did I miss something?
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Eric Herring" <herring@q...> wrote:
> > What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
> > I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
> >
> > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
> > To: AzVJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10,
2001
> >
> >
> > Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy out
> for those
> > that might not want to do upper.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: AzVJC Website
> > To: AzVJC
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday,
> August 10,
> > 2001.
> >
> > When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
> > Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
> > Rating: 3.5+
> > Length: 4 hours?
> > CB Channel: 4
> >
> >
> >
> > Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the
> road to the
> > Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross
> over and
> > around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or
> narrow
> > rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several
> by-passes.
> > The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
> >
> > This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler,
> although
> > this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock
vehicle.
> >
> > A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
> >
> > Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
> >
> > Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > - The AzVJC Website
> >
> >
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28313 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:22pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Last time I went through upper (month or so ago) there was a HUGE
boulder right at the turn before the waterfall. I was with 3 over
lifted, locked, well built jeeps and we had to rearrange about 30
rocks to get over it; I also had to get winched off after my first
attempt.
Needless to say if I was only with one other jeep, I wouldn't have
attempted it.
Someone has probably gone through since then and can comment....
28314 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:23pm
Subject: Re: Finally won one
Ahhhhh....
So that's how it's done??
--- In az_vjc@y..., lrobinson@c... wrote:
> Had the TJ towed to Lou Grubb last week, it seems that the
> tranny decided to give up the ghost. It turns out that the 5th gear
> countershaft bearings quit on me. The extended warranty company
sent
> out an adjuster to look at it and they said they would not pay the
> claim due to a 3" lift and 33" tires. Not wanting to pay a $1800
> repair bill, I decided to call them and argue a bit. After going
> through the initial customer service person and 2 other levels of
> supervisors and getting nowhere other than blowing holes in all of
> their theories as to why the tires and lift caused the damaged, I
> asked to have the next supervisor in line call me. After getting a
> promise that he would call, I politely asked the person on the phone
> that just in case I could generate some interest with one on the
> local news programs in investigating my claim, should I give them
his
> name or was there someone else that they should speak to. When I
got
> off of the phone, I had very little hope that they would pay.
Today,
> I called the dealer just to touch base, and the service advisor
asked
> me what I said to them. I asked what he meant, and he told me that
> the warranty company called him back yesterday afternoon, gave him
an
> authorization number and asked him to please get this one fixed
quick
> to "get that guay off of our backs". WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> FINALLY WON ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Lon
>
> 98 TJ
> With fresh transmission in a couple of days
28315 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:32pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Well - I tend to agree...35's would be better. I've done it w/ 33's
(locked), but like the girl says...bigger is better.
Things have certainly evolved, though. It wasn't all that long ago where the
biggest baddest tire was a 33, and these trails were done with them. Still
are, but you have to be willing to accept the collateral.
Peace,
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Skinner" <rskinner@s...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
> This is what I mean. A 4-4.5 is not a non-locked less then 33" kind of
> trail. Sure, you can slam up it but with the number of riggs nowadays that
> is not okay anymore. Trust me, I know what its like to want to do those
> trails and did it. There were also 12 people in AZVJC and I was locked
with
> 33"s.
> Wet is even worse. Then being open with no clearence means you really tear
> things up.
> Ross
> Yeah I know, making friends again DougB...my expertise....
> Lets go north buddy!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB
> To: herring@q...; 'AzVJC'
> Sent: 8/7/01 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>
> It's a very strong 4 to a 4.5. 33's and traction devices (f&r) as a
> minimum, IMO. There will likely be water in it, so it'll be more
> challenging than normal.
>
> Doug
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Herring <mailto:herring@q...>
> To: 'AzVJC' <mailto:az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>
> What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
> I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
>
> Eric Herring 92XJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>
>
> Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy out for
> those that might not want to do upper.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: AzVJC Website <mailto:azvjc@a...>
> To: AzVJC <mailto:az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday, August 10,
> 2001.
>
> When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
> Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
> Rating: 3.5+
> Length: 4 hours?
> CB Channel: 4
>
>
>
> Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the road to the
> Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross over
> and around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or
> narrow rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several
> by-passes. The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
>
> This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler, although
> this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.
>
> A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
>
> Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
>
> Click <http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=181> Here To Add Your
> Name to the Sign Up List
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> - The AzVJC Website
>
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28316 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:29pm
Subject: RE: Public Apology
Ross,
Obviously some of us are not "EXTREME" enough for you. I used to enjoy wheeling with you. It's probably better that some of you choose to segregate yourselves. Those of us not worthy of those parties presence anymore will just have to tough it out with the great bunch of people that make up the AZVJC.
I love this club!
Good day,
Scott
Ross Skinner wrote:
Don't worry about that BS Thane....I don't know what was said but if it
wasn't about his mother then so what....We are supposed to be Jeepers..real
men(and women)tough, thick skinned and so on....
Man is this a sensitive 90's TJ group or what!.. Loafers and polo shirts, I
am really getting old I guess.
Thane, anyone who can piss 600 Jeepers off is someone I can learn from..;-)
With that said... Where were all the TJ's when we did Dave Hickmans with
Alloffroad...Scott, want to have a ramp contest? Long legged what? Bug...
There, more fun for the group.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: 97tj@team3.net
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 8/7/01 8:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Public Apology
I wish to apologize to Nick for any comments that I made about this
weekends Crown King & Turkey Creek runs that might have offended Him.
I should have gotten my stories straight before making any
commenting. I do not wish to have any hard feelings between any club
members. I am sorry.
Thane Madrid
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28317 From: Baja Fleg <fleigle@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:38pm
Subject: Re: Finally won one
I have belonged to a number of groups much like this one that get the joy of
dealing with car dealerships when it comes to getting a vehicle repaired
under warranty. I don't know if Arizona has the same customer protection
laws as Nevada but there the dealer has to prove that whatever mods you made
to the car caused the part to break. It sounds like thats exactly what you
did so good job!!
Fleg
Chris K
> From: lrobinson@c...
> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 02:04:32 -0000
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Finally won one
>
> Had the TJ towed to Lou Grubb last week, it seems that the
> tranny decided to give up the ghost. It turns out that the 5th gear
> countershaft bearings quit on me. The extended warranty company sent
> out an adjuster to look at it and they said they would not pay the
> claim due to a 3" lift and 33" tires. Not wanting to pay a $1800
> repair bill, I decided to call them and argue a bit. After going
> through the initial customer service person and 2 other levels of
> supervisors and getting nowhere other than blowing holes in all of
> their theories as to why the tires and lift caused the damaged, I
> asked to have the next supervisor in line call me. After getting a
> promise that he would call, I politely asked the person on the phone
> that just in case I could generate some interest with one on the
> local news programs in investigating my claim, should I give them his
> name or was there someone else that they should speak to. When I got
> off of the phone, I had very little hope that they would pay. Today,
> I called the dealer just to touch base, and the service advisor asked
> me what I said to them. I asked what he meant, and he told me that
> the warranty company called him back yesterday afternoon, gave him an
> authorization number and asked him to please get this one fixed quick
> to "get that guay off of our backs". WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> FINALLY WON ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Lon
>
> 98 TJ
> With fresh transmission in a couple of days
>
>
>
>
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28318 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:39pm
Subject: RE: Public Apology
As far as I know, it was an open invite to everyone. Whose segregating
themselves. It was fun and interesting.
I go on all kinds of runs...when asked or I can go.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs
To: Ross Skinner; 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: 8/7/01 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Public Apology
Ross,
Obviously some of us are not "EXTREME" enough for you. I used to enjoy
wheeling with you. It's probably better that some of you choose to
segregate yourselves. Those of us not worthy of those parties presence
anymore will just have to tough it out with the great bunch of people
that make up the AZVJC.
I love this club!
Good day,
Scott
Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...> wrote:
Don't worry about that BS Thane....I don't know what was said but if it
wasn't about his mother then so what....We are supposed to be
Jeepers..real
men(and women)tough, thick skinned and so on....
Man is this a sensitive 90's TJ group or what!.. Loafers and polo
shirts, I
am really getting old I guess.
Thane, anyone who can piss 600 Jeepers off is someone I can learn
from..;-)
With that said... Where were all the TJ's when we did Dave Hickmans with
Alloffroad...Scott, want to have a ramp contest? Long legged what?
Bug...
There, more fun for the group.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: 97tj@t...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 8/7/01 8:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Public Apology
I wish to apologize to Nick for any comments that I made about this
weekends Crown King & Turkey Creek runs that might have offended Him.
I should have gotten my stories straight before making any
commenting. I do not wish to have any hard feelings between any club
members. I am sorry.
Thane Madrid
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28319 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:54pm
Subject: [FS] Want to buy 32 or 31" tires
Price: 350 and below
Contact: cheezy321@home.com or 623-566-1522
Would like to buy 31 or 32 inch tires. Would like to have at least 70-90% tread left and i would like them to have a nice tread too. please email me if you have any
Mitch Svor
28320 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:54pm
Subject: Re: Public Apology
Hey, Ross is back! Haven't seen you here in a long time.
Chris
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:02:34 -0700
> To: "'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> Don't worry about that BS Thane....I don't know what was said but if it
> wasn't about his mother then so what....We are supposed to be Jeepers..real
> men(and women)tough, thick skinned and so on....
> Man is this a sensitive 90's TJ group or what!.. Loafers and polo shirts, I
> am really getting old I guess.
> Thane, anyone who can piss 600 Jeepers off is someone I can learn from..;-)
>
> With that said... Where were all the TJ's when we did Dave Hickmans with
> Alloffroad...Scott, want to have a ramp contest? Long legged what? Bug...
>
> There, more fun for the group.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 97tj@t...
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 8/7/01 8:52 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> I wish to apologize to Nick for any comments that I made about this
> weekends Crown King & Turkey Creek runs that might have offended Him.
> I should have gotten my stories straight before making any
> commenting. I do not wish to have any hard feelings between any club
> members. I am sorry.
> Thane Madrid
>
>
>
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28321 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:58pm
Subject: Re: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Don't worry Eric, you can run just Lower and not Upper if you want. The exit
trail that runs beside the Ajax trail cuts right through where Lower Ajax
becomes Upper Ajax so there is an easy out. Lower Ajax is fun.
Chris K
> From: "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> Reply-To: <herring@q...>
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:05:32 -0700
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>
> The description said the run would include upper after lower & I would like
> to try it but just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head.
>
> Eric Herring 92XJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>
>
> I'm curious, why the talk about Upper if the run is for Lower...or
> did I miss something?
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Eric Herring" <herring@q...> wrote:
>> What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
>> I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
>>
>> Eric Herring 92XJ
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
>> To: AzVJC
>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>>
>>
>> Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy out
> for those
>> that might not want to do upper.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: AzVJC Website
>> To: AzVJC
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday,
> August 10,
>> 2001.
>>
>> When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
>> Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
>> Rating: 3.5+
>> Length: 4 hours?
>> CB Channel: 4
>>
>>
>>
>> Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the
> road to the
>> Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross
> over and
>> around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or
> narrow
>> rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several
> by-passes.
>> The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
>>
>> This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler,
> although
>> this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.
>>
>> A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
>>
>> Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
>>
>> Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> - The AzVJC Website
>>
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>>
>>
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> Service.
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28322 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 9:53pm
Subject: RE: Public Apology
Whatsup? Praying for some cool weather and some rain....Deb does not do the
CJ7 no AC thing. (Mark one for having a TJ with AC)
Just came buy to cause trouble as usual....;-0
Anything new on the rig?
Missed CK...had to go to Payson that weekend....not a single rain drop:-)
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg
To: Ross Skinner; 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: 8/7/01 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Public Apology
Hey, Ross is back! Haven't seen you here in a long time.
Chris
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:02:34 -0700
> To: "'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> Don't worry about that BS Thane....I don't know what was said but if
it
> wasn't about his mother then so what....We are supposed to be
Jeepers..real
> men(and women)tough, thick skinned and so on....
> Man is this a sensitive 90's TJ group or what!.. Loafers and polo
shirts, I
> am really getting old I guess.
> Thane, anyone who can piss 600 Jeepers off is someone I can learn
from..;-)
>
> With that said... Where were all the TJ's when we did Dave Hickmans
with
> Alloffroad...Scott, want to have a ramp contest? Long legged what?
Bug...
>
> There, more fun for the group.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 97tj@t...
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 8/7/01 8:52 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> I wish to apologize to Nick for any comments that I made about this
> weekends Crown King & Turkey Creek runs that might have offended Him.
> I should have gotten my stories straight before making any
> commenting. I do not wish to have any hard feelings between any club
> members. I am sorry.
> Thane Madrid
>
>
>
>
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28323 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 10:13pm
Subject: 8.8 Swap
Need some experienced based opinions/information on a ford 8.8 swap
for a TJ to run 35s, 4.56, 4 to 1, Detroit...with a 4 banger.
I've got a good lead on one out of a newer style exploder (only drums
though) that just needs a new pass. axle shaft.
For those with 8.8 experience, I have read that 96+ have discs and 31
splines. However my parents have a 96 (and this one looks
identical); but this particular explorer only has drums (I haven't
opened it to check the spline count, I'm not sure if the guy will let
me or not).
Is the 28 spline really that much weaker than the 31 spline, or can
you upgrade them to 31 spline?
I have no plans for a motor swap.
I know it will need new brackets, gears, bearings, and a yoke
adaptor. But I've read that some people have had to modify the e-
brake cable.
I'll be putting a SYE/DS in at the same time so will get the correct
driveshaft yoke and adaptor.
I know you big guns will say go for the 9" or a D60 for the strength
and being non c-clip, but the prices are insane....and do I really
need that much axle for a 4 banger based on a cost to strength ratio
and only running 36" tire max? (I currently have a D35C so anything
is really a big step up.)
I've done the research and am confident in knowing what it will take
to get it under the jeep…..but my point is I can get the rear end for
really, really cheap compared to what they usually run, and I would
have to build one up with the right gears, locker etc anyways.
Opinions, thoughts, concerns?
28324 From: Blake Shepherd <shepherdblake@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 10:56pm
Subject: Re: Finally won one
So your saying that your 33's had nothing to do with
your tranny problem. Hmmm
Congrats
Blake
80CJ5 (on my 4th tranny)
01 TJ
--- lrobinson@c... wrote:
> Had the TJ towed to Lou Grubb last week, it
> seems that the
> tranny decided to give up the ghost. It turns out
> that the 5th gear
> countershaft bearings quit on me. The extended
> warranty company sent
> out an adjuster to look at it and they said they
> would not pay the
> claim due to a 3" lift and 33" tires. Not wanting
> to pay a $1800
> repair bill, I decided to call them and argue a bit.
> After going
> through the initial customer service person and 2
> other levels of
> supervisors and getting nowhere other than blowing
> holes in all of
> their theories as to why the tires and lift caused
> the damaged, I
> asked to have the next supervisor in line call me.
> After getting a
> promise that he would call, I politely asked the
> person on the phone
> that just in case I could generate some interest
> with one on the
> local news programs in investigating my claim,
> should I give them his
> name or was there someone else that they should
> speak to. When I got
> off of the phone, I had very little hope that they
> would pay. Today,
> I called the dealer just to touch base, and the
> service advisor asked
> me what I said to them. I asked what he meant, and
> he told me that
> the warranty company called him back yesterday
> afternoon, gave him an
> authorization number and asked him to please get
> this one fixed quick
> to "get that guay off of our backs".
> WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> FINALLY WON ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Lon
>
> 98 TJ
> With fresh transmission in a couple of days
>
>
>
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28325 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 11:00pm
Subject: Re: Public Apology
Ross,
Consider this a peace agreement
I think I need to relax. These damn inlaws are getting under my skin. Wish me luck as I'm approaching 8 weeks and counting down to the big wedding day Oct 6th. And despite the economic slowdown and computer companies laying people off, somebody forgot to inform my clients that they aren't supposed to call as much. It's absolutely crazy lately.
To keep you up to date on whats been happening lately...I'm getting a new higher clearance gas skid from Kilby for the low hanging, speed bump dragging TJ. New Mastercraft Racing Seats to make it even more comfy are being shipped this week. You can feel free to call me a weenie anytime, but I'm the most comfortable weenie you've ever met on the trailOh yeah, and the other weenie Joe W is getting them too
If your real good I'll let you sit in one of them.
Ahhhh, those relaxing kava kava herbs are starting to kick in....
Scott
Chris Krieg wrote:
Hey, Ross is back! Haven't seen you here in a long time.
Chris
> From: Ross Skinner
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:02:34 -0700
> To: "'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'"
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> Don't worry about that BS Thane....I don't know what was said but if it
> wasn't about his mother then so what....We are supposed to be Jeepers..real
> men(and women)tough, thick skinned and so on....
> Man is this a sensitive 90's TJ group or what!.. Loafers and polo shirts, I
> am really getting old I guess.
> Thane, anyone who can piss 600 Jeepers off is someone I can learn from..;-)
>
> With that said... Where were all the TJ's when we did Dave Hickmans with
> Alloffroad...Scott, want to have a ramp contest? Long legged what? Bug...
>
> There, more fun for the group.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 97tj@team3.net
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 8/7/01 8:52 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> I wish to apologize to Nick for any comments that I made about this
> weekends Crown King & Turkey Creek runs that might have offended Him.
> I should have gotten my stories straight before making any
> commenting. I do not wish to have any hard feelings between any club
> members. I am sorry.
> Thane Madrid
>
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28326 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 11:07pm
Subject: Re: Finally won one
I'm glad to hear you came out a winner. I too purchased an extended warranty on my TJ. I haven't yet passed the factory 3/36 warranty yet and often wonder how much trouble I'll get if I ever need to make a claim on my Chrysler 7/70 warranty. In the fine print it excludes hard offroad use. I wonder what they'll think of my rig when I pull in needing a new tranny. They can't seriously expect me believe that my Teralow, 35's, gears, and lockers ruined it. It must have been the hand throttle bolted to the shifter that ruined it
Scott
Blake Shepherd wrote:
So your saying that your 33's had nothing to do with
your tranny problem. Hmmm
Congrats
Blake
80CJ5 (on my 4th tranny)
01 TJ
--- lrobinson@commspeed.net wrote:
> Had the TJ towed to Lou Grubb last week, it
> seems that the
> tranny decided to give up the ghost. It turns out
> that the 5th gear
> countershaft bearings quit on me. The extended
> warranty company sent
> out an adjuster to look at it and they said they
> would not pay the
> claim due to a 3" lift and 33" tires. Not wanting
> to pay a $1800
> repair bill, I decided to call them and argue a bit.
> After going
> through the initial customer service person and 2
> other levels of
> supervisors and getting nowhere other than blowing
> holes in all of
> their theories as to why the tires and lift caused
> the damaged, I
> asked to have the next supervisor in line call me.
> After getting a
> promise that he would call, I politely asked the
> person on the phone
> that just in case I could generate some interest
> with one on the
> local news programs in investigating my claim,
> should I give them his
> name or was there someone else that they should
> speak to. When I got
> off of the phone, I had very little hope that they
> would pay. Today,
> I called the dealer just to touch base, and the
> service advisor asked
> me what I said to them. I asked what he meant, and
> he told me that
> the warranty company called him back yesterday
> afternoon, gave him an
> authorization number and asked him to please get
> this one fixed quick
> to "get that guay off of our backs".
> WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> FINALLY WON ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Lon
>
> 98 TJ
> With fresh transmission in a couple of days
>
>
>
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28327 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 11:15pm
Subject: RE: Public Apology
The burns from the welds go away after a month or two...
Tell me about the busy times. We are booked.
I miss spotting JoeW, everytime I think he is gone, there he comes right
backdown. That green is to nice to dent up, I am thinking of that color for
my old beater.
My greasy butt is not fit for those seats and is probably to wide anyway!
Thank God my inlaws are out of state and nice...so far:-)
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs
To: Chris Krieg; Ross Skinner; 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: 8/7/01 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Public Apology
Ross,
Consider this a peace agreement <Grin>
I think I need to relax. These damn inlaws are getting under my skin.
Wish me luck as I'm approaching 8 weeks and counting down to the big
wedding day Oct 6th. And despite the economic slowdown and computer
companies laying people off, somebody forgot to inform my clients that
they aren't supposed to call as much. It's absolutely crazy lately.
To keep you up to date on whats been happening lately...I'm getting a
new higher clearance gas skid from Kilby for the low hanging, speed bump
dragging TJ. New Mastercraft Racing Seats to make it even more comfy are
being shipped this week. You can feel free to call me a weenie anytime,
but I'm the most comfortable weenie you've ever met on the trail
yeah, and the other weenie Joe W is getting them too
good I'll let you sit in one of them.
Ahhhh, those relaxing kava kava herbs are starting to kick in....
Scott
Chris Krieg <rv6a@h...> wrote:
Hey, Ross is back! Haven't seen you here in a long time.
Chris
> From: Ross Skinner
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:02:34 -0700
> To: "'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'"
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> Don't worry about that BS Thane....I don't know what was said but if
it
> wasn't about his mother then so what....We are supposed to be
Jeepers..real
> men(and women)tough, thick skinned and so on....
> Man is this a sensitive 90's TJ group or what!.. Loafers and polo
shirts, I
> am really getting old I guess.
> Thane, anyone who can piss 600 Jeepers off is someone I can learn
from..;-)
>
> With that said... Where were all the TJ's when we did Dave Hickmans
with
> Alloffroad...Scott, want to have a ramp contest? Long legged what?
Bug...
>
> There, more fun for the group.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 97tj@t...
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 8/7/01 8:52 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Public Apology
>
> I wish to apologize to Nick for any comments that I made about this
> weekends Crown King & Turkey Creek runs that might have offended Him.
> I should have gotten my stories straight before making any
> commenting. I do not wish to have any hard feelings between any club
> members. I am sorry.
> Thane Madrid
>
>
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28328 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 11:25pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
I have done Upper Ajax a few times, all with 33's. The first two times only with a rear locker. It was a challenge but fun, and some body damage. The last time was with front and rear lockers and a 4 to 1, This made it just another trail. I don't think that anything bigger than a 33 is needed but front and rear lockers is a very good idea. Just my opinion.
Also I have heard that a large rock has fell into the trail as the trail turns right at the base of the main water fall and has made the trail harder. I have not been out there to see it for myself.
Eben
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: DougB
To: herring@qwest.net ; 'AzVJC'
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
It's a very strong 4 to a 4.5. 33's and traction devices (f&r) as a minimum, IMO. There will likely be water in it, so it'll be more challenging than normal.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Herring
To: 'AzVJC'
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy out for those that might not want to do upper.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Hello All,
Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday, August 10, 2001.
When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
Rating: 3.5+
Length: 4 hours?
CB Channel: 4
Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the road to the Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross over and around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or narrow rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several by-passes. The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler, although this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.
A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
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28329 From: <shoebox555@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 7:49pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT: Dry Cleaner
Scott:
That might be a good idea..... There are a lot of us JEEP wives.........
New stuff for Your Jeep honey just have to test it on mine first... Len is
still trying to convvience me of this... only thing is those parts won't work
on my CJ .
Pam
CJ5 still in pieces...
Btw.... Len i'm not holding you to your promise........
28330 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 5:24am
Subject: Re: new parts and Jeep wives was: Re: OT: Dry Cleaner
LOL.......It's called a "proof of concept" sweetheart. And what do you mean
that the parts I want to hang on the J-10 won't fit the CJ-5? A lot of
stuff interchanges between the two........they use the same gas, the same
oil, the same antifreeze, even the same grease. :-)
Actually, if (oops, I meant when....yeah, that's it, when) we get the Chevy
350 into the CJ-5 the York compressor brackets we came up with for the
Chevy small block WILL interchange between the two........so there.
Research.
Love you sweetie.
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: shoebox555@a... <shoebox555@a...>
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: OT: Dry Cleaner
>Scott:
>
>That might be a good idea..... There are a lot of us JEEP wives.........
>
>
>New stuff for Your Jeep honey just have to test it on mine first... Len
is
>still trying to convvience me of this... only thing is those parts won't
work
>on my CJ .
>
>
>Pam
>
>CJ5 still in pieces...
>
>Btw.... Len i'm not holding you to your promise........
>
>
>
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28331 From: Dan Siegel <cruzeunit@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 7:26am
Subject: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Just a warning to those considering upper Ajax.
I was with Dan C and the others on upper ajax soon after the bolder
fell.
In my opinion the trail went from a fun and challenging to very
technical in the area of the boulder.
I'll never forget hearing the words "thats new" spoken solmeny on
the CB from Dan as he rounded the corner into the area of the bolder.
Anyway, my point being, Agreeing with Ross, Unless someone has blown
this thing up, or stacked so many rocks that its just another speed
bump. I would not recommend this trail without at least 33's & front
& rear lockers & MOST IMPORTANT: EXPERIANCE WITH TECHINICAL ROCK
CRAWLING & A EXCELLENT SPOTTER. It would be real easy to go sliding
off the top of this thing. Hopefully someone will go that has done
the trail since the rock fell.
I'm not trying to say that this rock is the most difficult obstical
in the world, It's actually pretty cool & adds a great new twist to
this trail. I would really hate to see it altered so anything less
then a very built rig can make it.
I really wish I could go with you all. Gotta go out of town.
Dan Siegel
28332 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 7:53am
Subject: RE: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
I ran both Upper and lower Ajax earlier this year with a guy that had a TJ,
3.5" lift, 33" tires, no lockers. Upper Ajax gave him fits and yes there was
plenty of water because it rained on us all day. It was a lot of fun. I
attached a pic. of that TJ in a crack. We shredded one of his bran new BFGs
in this picture.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s2bsi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:11 PM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
This is what I mean. A 4-4.5 is not a non-locked less then 33" kind of
trail. Sure, you can slam up it but with the number of riggs nowadays that
is not okay anymore. Trust me, I know what its like to want to do those
trails and did it. There were also 12 people in AZVJC and I was locked with
33"s.
Wet is even worse. Then being open with no clearence means you really tear
things up.
Ross
Yeah I know, making friends again DougB...my expertise....
Lets go north buddy!
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB
To: herring@qwest.net; 'AzVJC'
Sent: 8/7/01 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
It's a very strong 4 to a 4.5. 33's and traction devices (f&r) as a
minimum, IMO. There will likely be water in it, so it'll be more
challenging than normal.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Herring <mailto:herring@qwest.net>
To: 'AzVJC' <mailto:az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy out for
those that might not want to do upper.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website <mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org>
To: AzVJC <mailto:az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Hello All,
Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday, August 10,
2001.
When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
Rating: 3.5+
Length: 4 hours?
CB Channel: 4
Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the road to the
Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross over
and around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or
narrow rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several
by-passes. The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler, although
this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.
A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
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28333 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 7:55am
Subject: Re: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Hey Dan, you missed something. We are running lower first, then upper.
Mike
--- Dan Coley <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> I'm curious, why the talk about Upper if the run is for Lower...or
> did I miss something?
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Eric Herring" <herring@q...> wrote:
> > What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
> > I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
> >
> > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
> > To: AzVJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
> >
> >
> > Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy out
> for those
> > that might not want to do upper.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: AzVJC Website
> > To: AzVJC
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday,
> August 10,
> > 2001.
> >
> > When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
> > Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
> > Rating: 3.5+
> > Length: 4 hours?
> > CB Channel: 4
> >
> >
> >
> > Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the
> road to the
> > Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross
> over and
> > around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or
> narrow
> > rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several
> by-passes.
> > The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
> >
> > This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler,
> although
> > this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.
> >
> > A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
> >
> > Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
> >
> > Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > - The AzVJC Website
> >
> >
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28334 From: Chatfield, Mike <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 7:58am
Subject: FW: jeep question
This came to the website, please respond to:
mailto:secret_service6@y...
- Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex [mailto:secret_service6@y...]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:06 PM
To: AzVJC@A...
Subject: jeep question
hey mike i need a favor to ask
i am putting in a clutch for a 77 jeep cj7 with a
304...my problem is i can not put the
transmission back into the throw-out bearing and all
that other crap. if you have any
body that found an easy trick to it i would appreciate
it if you would hit me back
thank
alex arredondo
email secret_service6@y...
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28335 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 7:58am
Subject: RE: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Guys
Get locked at one end or the other. If you go on a 4+ trail make sure
someone who has been around is along to spot and help out. 33 BFG's are
great tires and when it comes to traction I think they hold better then my
38.5 TSL/SX's (except when they are at 2lbs)
If you are waiting to upgrade axels, buy a cheap locker until you do.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Siade, Randy
To: 'Ross Skinner'; 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: 8/8/01 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
I ran both Upper and lower Ajax earlier this year with a guy that had a
TJ,
3.5" lift, 33" tires, no lockers. Upper Ajax gave him fits and yes there
was
plenty of water because it rained on us all day. It was a lot of fun. I
attached a pic. of that TJ in a crack. We shredded one of his bran new
BFGs
in this picture.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:11 PM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
This is what I mean. A 4-4.5 is not a non-locked less then 33" kind of
trail. Sure, you can slam up it but with the number of riggs nowadays
that
is not okay anymore. Trust me, I know what its like to want to do those
trails and did it. There were also 12 people in AZVJC and I was locked
with
33"s.
Wet is even worse. Then being open with no clearence means you really
tear
things up.
Ross
Yeah I know, making friends again DougB...my expertise....
Lets go north buddy!
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB
To: herring@q...; 'AzVJC'
Sent: 8/7/01 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
It's a very strong 4 to a 4.5. 33's and traction devices (f&r) as a
minimum, IMO. There will likely be water in it, so it'll be more
challenging than normal.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Herring <mailto:herring@q...>
To: 'AzVJC' <mailto:az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy out for
those that might not want to do upper.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website <mailto:azvjc@a...>
To: AzVJC <mailto:az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Hello All,
Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday, August 10,
2001.
When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
Rating: 3.5+
Length: 4 hours?
CB Channel: 4
Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the road to the
Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross over
and around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or
narrow rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several
by-passes. The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler, although
this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.
A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
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28336 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 8:10am
Subject: Re: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10, 2001
Hey it was late and I been messin' with the jeep...you know what that
does to the brain! =)
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> Hey Dan, you missed something. We are running lower first, then
upper.
>
> Mike
>
> --- Dan Coley <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> > I'm curious, why the talk about Upper if the run is for
Lower...or
> > did I miss something?
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Eric Herring" <herring@q...> wrote:
> > > What equipment is recommended for upper Ajax?
> > > I have an XJ with 5" lift 32" MT's & a healthy track lock.
> > >
> > > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:15 PM
> > > To: AzVJC
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10,
2001
> > >
> > >
> > > Just a note to all. Upper Ajax is a 4.5, but there's an easy
out
> > for those
> > > that might not want to do upper.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: AzVJC Website
> > > To: AzVJC
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Friday, August 10,
2001
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Mike Baney is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Friday,
> > August 10,
> > > 2001.
> > >
> > > When: Meet at 7:00 PM at the Texaco in FJ.
> > > Where: We will run lower ajax first, then on to upper ajax.
> > > Rating: 3.5+
> > > Length: 4 hours?
> > > CB Channel: 4
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the
> > road to the
> > > Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you
cross
> > over and
> > > around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls
or
> > narrow
> > > rock areas to find your way over or through but there are
several
> > by-passes.
> > > The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.
> > >
> > > This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-
wheeler,
> > although
> > > this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock
vehicle.
> > >
> > > A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..
> > >
> > > Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
> > >
> > > Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
> > >
> > > Thank You,
> > >
> > > - The AzVJC Website
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
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